Folake Bee
Hello and welcome. My name is Folake bee, and this is the healing centre, a series of podcasts for the free spirits solopreneurs heart centred entrepreneurs, and changemakers leading the New Age world. We are learning and releasing echoes of what no longer serves us as we expand into new possibilities. On this week's episode, we're diving into a different perspective of creating successful and soulful businesses through a healing journey. Joining me into this episode, we're excited to have Emily John Wilcox, who much like myself is a crystal loving money mentor and business coach. And I love this woman. Emily's mission is to help female entrepreneurs uncover their money wounds, and heal them as part of our collective journey to uplevel in our planet. After build into seven figure businesses in the masculine energy of hustle and grind, Emily decided to ditch the belief that it had to be hard. And this journey has continued to amplify our focus on doing what she truly loves. She uses energetics, woo, and a sprinkle of strategy to help women call in more money joy is in play. And I should say I'm a big fan of this lady. But before that, I like to share with you some downloads whilst walking down the river Lee, which is a river that runs through the town that I live in a short five to 10 minute segment that I like to call moments of reflection.
Folake Bee
I feel like there are instances or situations, that's normally I would be okay with, like, you know, things that I have been doing for so long or situations that I haven't been for so long that normally, I know that it's not the perfect environment or not the perfect situation for me, but I would just I would cope with it. And I will stay in it. And I would just ride it. But recently, I'm finding that there are certain things that just don't feel the digital resonates with me anymore. And this almost this feels very heightened, like the first very heightened that I cannot be in that situation. Now, I just need to just to just let it go. And some of the situation I'm talking about feel very scary to almost say, Okay, I've outgrown this situation, and I need to just, I need, I can't be in this it just doesn't resonate with my energy anymore. Some of these situations or instances, some foreign finding actually bit stuff that I'm saying. I'm saying no to I wonder whether you're feeling the same, I wondered I, you know, whether you're feeling like if you if it fits, notice that you have little tolerance for things that just do not resonate with your energy anymore. And you're just like, Okay, I've had enough of that time to just move on. Because I feel personally perhaps maybe, is linked with this energy that we're in this energy of transformation, where a lot of things are transforming on an energetic state. And you know, normally I usually talk about this, this, this ascension and this transformation that will go into an on an individual level as well. You know, we are changing and we are ascending and we are we are evolving and our consciousness is raising. So perhaps maybe is to do with that, and things that normally perhaps maybe resonates with our, our old selves. Now, he's just totally outgrown it and filling this reflection on this idea that what we may see may reflect to us the opposite of what we actually need. So right now, we may be, we may be seeing that. Maybe what we need is to really push because if you look at the economy estate prices and going up, gas prices and going up petrol dissolve this, this massive inflation, inflation just like creeping up, everything is so much more expensive. And even on the other side, if you look at the politics side of things, there's so much chaos, in that in that side of things as well. And automatically, many people right now will be feeling to, to really push to stay in situations that they're not happy with, just to perhaps maybe keep the income coming in. To stay in there and upgrade from this realm of fear. And all this resonance, when really, I feel personally, my intuitive nature tells me that that's actually the false mirror. That's actually the false mirror. That's the opposite of what we really should be doing. That is the opposite the, the, the actually, the is in the letting go in the syringe dream. And, and instead of fear, stepping into love, instead of push, stepping into ease, the surrendering of that, of that, of that control. But this is more to is through bots, if we were to look at that side, we might feel like oh my gosh, how is that going to be the way forward when prices are going up, I need to make my money, I need to keep the money that I made, I need to stay in this job that I hate, just to like really stay alive and stay in control. But I feel that is looking at the short term goal.
Folake Bee
What we need right now it's a higher vibration is almost to mirror the opposite. to higher vibration, to trust to love true is to the feminine energy and releasing control. And I'm seeing this and in my conversations with the women I'm talking to either on the healing centre podcast, or all the women I'm supporting. Welcome back, I hope to this moment of reflection gave you something to inspire action, and take you through until we meet again here. Now let's move on to the main subject for this episode, which is a discussion between myself and Emily about doing the inner work as a spiritually conscious, seven figure female entrepreneur. I hope you enjoyed this interview even half as much as I did, because I totally loved it.
Folake Bee
I didn't know why. But I was so excited to be speaking to you. I had this wish list of people that I just love to like chat to. And you were like top of it, even though we've never spoken. So I'm so happy that you're here. I am so intrigued about your intrapreneurial journey. I've seen you talk about things along the lines of how you used to operate in the masculine and how you switch and more into the feminine. And I know this talk particularly we want to focus more on the inner child. But there are other things that intrigues me that I just wanted like us to bring in and I thought maybe we'll start with that as a sort of like an introduction. So
Emily June Wilcox
So I'm an Enneagram three manifesting generator. And I really lived a lot of my life, collecting achievements and collecting the praise of others as a way of feeling like I belonged and feeling loved and feeling worthy and feeling successful. And it worked to a degree you know, I was able to build a nice six figure career, build a family and start to build businesses. And then there became a shedding and the deeper that I dove into the inner work and the more that I started had to understand myself and my own desires and get even just a little bit connected with them. It also meant a releasing of other people's expectations and desires and their way of doing things. And so even stepping from corporate America into entrepreneurship felt big, it felt scary, I had to hold the disappointment of my boss and the leaders at that company who had a really different vision. For me, stepping into entrepreneurship, what felt most comfortable to me was to look to mentors for advice was to hire people and try to duplicate their methods, it really felt safer to have a roadmap. And because of that, I was still in a lot of masculine energy, because the people I was learning from it was like, set an annual goal and break it down into quarterly and then into monthly and then do the math and figure out if you want to make this much each month. And here's how much you have to sell, which means this is how many phone calls you need to get on and on down the line. It worked to a degree, right, and we can we can take other people's path and it will get us somewhere. But what I found for myself is it won't get me to a place where I feel like I'm living my highest expression, and feeling free. So what I built initially, with the help of my husband and others, and mentors and coaches was a seven figure ecommerce business, followed by an agency that helps other brands to sell their products on Amazon specifically. And both of those businesses achieved a certain level of monetary success. And what I sacrificed in the process was my feelings of freedom. Really any shred of feminine energy, I was wanting to be in the wounded masculine, it felt safer to me if I had an illusion of control. And so as long as I was the one thinking and I was the one doing then it was like, I could maybe control the outcome. And it wasn't until I started, I had an initial session with a coach who actually does inner child healing. Although I never would have signed up for a free session on that. It was under the guise of manifestation. And I was like, Oh, she's gonna help me get more money. And she used her intuitive gifts and said, I feel a real imbalance of masculine and feminine energy, you're very much in the masculine, and your deepest desire is to let go of control. But you don't know how. And I just started sobbing because someone finally put words to something that I hadn't even fully let myself feel until that very moment.
Folake Bee
So was when you were, let's say in that masculine energy and building those business in that masculine paradigm. When you were in it, did you feel any imbalance with how you were a person? Or did you just feel okay, like, this is the way to be,
Emily June Wilcox
I actually felt pretty okay, because I think I was in my masculine energy, a lot in life, you know, in at university and in every job that I had done, but I also had a lot of narratives that supported it. So my husband and I both felt like well, we're in a startup. And this is the season. Like it's difficult. In the beginning, you got to put in a lot of sweat equity, and it pays off later. And of course, you can find a million books and entrepreneurs and coaches who also share that same belief system because that is one way of doing it. And so we really just looked at it as a season like we're investing and we're pouring in now, and will reap the rewards later. However, what I started recognising when I dove more into the inner work, is that I was actually perpetuating a paradigm that I created in childhood, which was it didn't feel safe to fully explore my wants and desires. tires. Because often that meant money. And in my household, although we were middle class, and everything actually was taken care of money was the root of all arguments and disagreements. And so because of that, I wanted to keep the peace. I didn't want to go to my parents with a desire, that meant they would need to give money, which might mean an argument. And so what I learned was just delayed gratification, and a suppression of desires. And so I became really comfortable operating in that paradigm. And part of the healing work for me, has been actually What does instant gratification look like? What does it look like to just do what I want now, and not just imagine that my struggle or my suffering, or my investment now will eventually lead to a place that I feel free or where I feel taken care of, or where it feels safe to slow down, because I actually don't think I ever could have gotten to that place. It was like it didn't feel safe, to go slow. It didn't feel safe to explore my desires. And so this idea that later it would, was actually just perpetuating the same paradigm of invest now, maybe delayed gratification. And it was like, once I saw it for what it was, I felt like, well, that's gonna be my whole life. If I don't interrupt this pattern,
Folake Bee
what was what do you think, has been like, the biggest thing you had to do in this inner child healing journey? To heal, or to, to release on that journey?
Emily June Wilcox
Yeah, so I really find that like, whether it's inner child healing, or I do a lot of money wound healing with my clients. And I actually believe that when we can get to a place of looking at something and naming it, really specifically naming it, that's so powerful, and it's actually a big part of the healing. So specifically, with inner child, some of the core kind of subconscious beliefs that I was holding on to, is that I had to learn earn the love and approval of others, that I needed to be right, that I was on my own, and that I was abandoned. And so seeing how those played out, they were playing out in all kinds of ways in my relationship with my husband and my relationship to my business, my relationship with money. But there was something so potent, and in just naming them, and really feeling it. And then we're, we're smart beings, you know, like, we're empathic. We're typically high achieving women. And it's like, when we understand what's actually happening, the medicine is often pretty intuitive. And so it's like, what was the medicine for I'm abandoned. It was like, Oh, let me go back to that version of me that felt that way, and just like wrap her up in the biggest hug, and, and tell her like, I am never going to abandon you. I'm here, I've got you. We're in this together. I've got your back. I'm not going anywhere. And, you know, there were times in my life where I abandoned myself, so to speak. I think we do that when we cross our own boundaries when we choose someone else's version of happiness over our own. And so it felt like an important reclamation to just scoop up that little girl and tell her that like, I've got you forever and ever. Amen. Like, I'm not going anywhere. And we're in this together, and I love you and you're enough, just as you are. There's nothing you could ever do or say that would make me leave you
Folake Bee
and I guess on that journey of coming to that conclusion for those things that you raise, could you trace them back to them actually happening to you as a as not just your inner child but in in real life? That incidents that happened? Are they usually will things that happen to us or are they like more psychological thing like in Europe, how to stop
Emily June Wilcox
in in my case, it's It depends. However, I do think there is something so potent when we can and go back to specific memories that felt traumatising and reparent ourselves through those. So just going on the same example of feeling abandoned. I had this memory resurface where I was in a shopping mall with my mom. And she was a, she's the kind of person that likes to go slow through every store, she wants to go in and out of every store in the mall. Like she just enjoys the experience of shopping. And I of course, was like a bored kid. And I thought it would be fun to hide and one of those circular clothing racks. And I thought, Oh, this is going to be hilarious. Like, I'm going to scare my mom, she's not going to know where I am. And she's going to be looking for me and whatever. So I hid in there. And some time went by, and some more time went by, and some more time went by, to where I started getting a little concerned like, Oh, this is not going according to my plan. And when I peeked out, I didn't see her in the store. So then I got out of the clothing rack and looked around and couldn't find her in the store and went out into the mall and found her like one or two stores up. So I don't remember exactly what happened after that. But it was like, I reconnected with her. And she didn't feel fearful about it because she hadn't realised that I wasn't with her. So I felt a tremendous amount of fear and a lot of unsafety that, you know, Wow, here I am on my own. And the person that I thought was in charge actually wasn't looking after me. And her reaction of just being like, Oh, there you are actually sort of reinforced that for me. So after I after this memory surfaced, and I did some re parenting for myself, I actually did talk to my mom about it. And she doesn't remember it. So I'm pretty sure it actually happened. But sometimes these memories are funny where you're like, Mom, I don't know, maybe it didn't. But there was a stored trauma there. And so it's actually not about my mom, giving me the feelings of safety anymore in choosing me. Although she does choose me and she does love me. I was looking for something for my parents, even as an adult that they couldn't really give. And so when I understand the concept of re parenting my own inner child, it was like for the first time I could give myself exactly what I needed, which also really set me free to experience. My parents love and support in the ways that they were able to give it instead of always feeling like it was falling short, because it wasn't living up to this unspoken expectation that I had.
Folake Bee
Yeah, I love that. Because on the shamanic journey, we always believe when something like that happens, like something could happen to a child at a very early years, and to other people can seem very insignificant, but to that child in that moment, that thing happens, you know, that fear that you felt coming out? And it's like, where is she even, it could be for like a second, it could be for 10 seconds. There could be a fragments of fragmentation there where that literally just leave a little bit of that little girl there, you know, that needs to be gone in minutes to go back and do that healing to integrate her back. So when He then started doing this inner child healing journey, is that what propelled you to start to shift more into a different kind of business moving into the coaching, or did something else happen before did that happen after it probably
Emily June Wilcox
did, although I didn't know it at that time. So I would say this was maybe three years ago that I went on a journey of really healing and re parenting my inner child. After that, I joined a year long women's mastermind with a coach that you and I shared Amber and really was able to start healing some sister wounds and Mother wounds, although I didn't know what those were. And that language wasn't being used. But it put me into a space to really recognise it and start to lean into sisterhood and start to rebalance my masculine and feminine energy even further. When was this October 2020. I was invited to speak at a very bro mastermind very masculine energy tactics and that kind of thing. And I thought I was going to be speaking on a panel because that's I had seen before was that some of the mastermind participants would speak on a panel. So I'm like, Yeah, sure. That sounds great. It felt like a yes. Well, then the the coach who asked me to do it, circle back and he said, great, you're gonna have 90 minutes. And I really would love for you to speak on building a business by doing what you love. He was like, Oh, this is really different. And it was so stretchy for me. I had, I pulled together all of the inner work that I had done along the way. But it was my first time really sharing it and sharing it so publicly, as I was preparing my, my guides were like, You need to lead them through a visualisation. To which I was like, eff No, we are not doing that. Like a room of 70 Dudes, I'm not leading them through a visualisation. But of course, I sometimes I do fight with my higher self and ultimately submit. And ended up being so powerful people were in tears, sharing, like, so many people really had breakthroughs and how they wanted to run their business through this talk that I gave. And I could feel in myself that a seed was planted. And I didn't know what that meant. I just knew this is this is something important that happened on my life journey, and something's gonna harvest from this. And I don't know what it is. But people kept coming up to me afterwards and saying, like, so this is what you do for a living, right? And I was like, I run an Amazon agency. And they would look at me puzzled, like, that makes no sense. Like, we saw what you just did on stage, how is it that you run an Amazon agency. And so soon after, I really got a call from Spirit to step into coaching, and really changed my relationship with my other businesses so that there was time and space for me to still be the mother that I wanted to be to be the coach that I wanted to be and make sure that you know, all of the businesses were running well,
Folake Bee
but I have so many questions. But I know we don't have that much time. But I still want to ask, so before we even go into the coaching in terms of your like the agency in the Amazon companies at this stage, when you set it to like for more into this, you know, doing the healing and coming back home into your body. And you said, you know, you made those other business work a little bit better. What type of changes were you doing then? So what sort of changes were you putting in this masculine structured business?
Emily June Wilcox
Yeah. So when I started doing the inner child healing, it really became so clear to me how, you know, I was my upper limit problem. It was like, I could see that I was really attaching my worth to client outcomes, and even to the outcomes of sales calls, whether brands said yes or no to working with us. And if they said, Yes, and I and we received the money, then I immediately felt beholden. And I went into the overdoing it was like, Oh, now we have to quick do all the things to make sure that they're super happy and more over delivering. And so as I started healing, that part of myself that was looking for worth externally, I was able to clean a lot of that up. And just be more lean back in the sales process. Like this is who we are, this is what we do. If you want it. Come on, come join the party. And here's how much it is. So there were lots of changes along the way. And in even in the way of managing the team. So I think we've got about 15 on our team at the agency, and I was the CEO at the time. And although I had team I was still in my masculine because I wasn't. I was delegating work, but I wasn't delegating the decision making and the responsibility and the consequences of those decisions to people on the team. It felt really important to me to have a seat at the table whenever key decisions were being made. And I was carrying the weight of all of it. And so I work with a lot of my clients on feminine energy leadership because when we are in CEO roles, we haven't always been taught and we don't always know what it looks like to have our team be in their masculine and really have systems and support and stuff. picture so that we can lean back and trust and surrender and be a bit more in our Creator mode instead of in the masculine of the thinking and doing all the time. I love
Folake Bee
that. I absolutely love that. And then moving into the coaching, what was your guiding force? What was your inspiration to do in that home this coaching that you were then going into? Yeah,
Emily June Wilcox
so my coaching business has been so led by spirit, it's, you know, from from the moment, I got the message, too, and I was doing actually, I was receiving like a shamanic massage kind of session in Sedona. And it was funny, because she was channelling some stuff that did not feel like it was landing at all. But then I heard a voice in my head that said, you need to take a month off from your business. And of course, I was like, oh, no, anything, but that was actually six weeks. So I just sat with that. Yeah, I will do anything for love. But I won't do that. It was like, Yeah, I'll listen to you. So but not when you asked me to take that much time away. So I really thought that something was going to come through for Elevate, which is our agency. And so it felt like a birth. And you know, childbirth is very inconvenient, right? You have to drop all your plans, clear your schedule. So that's the way I was looking at it. And I really believed something was going to come through for the agency, which was the only way I could justify it in my head and justify it to my business partners that like, Hey, you guys got to step in? I'm stepping out. Yes, I'm no, I'm cleaning my kitchen cabinets. It's very weird, but something's about to happen. And what what actually happened was that as the time was going by, I started feeling more and more disconnected from that business. And I was feeling the pull, it was like, start a new Instagram practice using your voice, like, say all the stuff that you think just start sharing. And then it was like, okay, maybe I am being pulled into coaching, but what am I going to coach on? So then I was like wrestling with that for a little while. And in the meantime, I'm getting downloads on like, okay, promote this person to operations manager, have everyone report up through them, all of these things for the business that were actually structural things to totally get me out of it. And I came to the feeling that like, Yes, I'm supposed to be coaching about money, which felt scary a F, because it was the thing that felt maybe most difficult or challenging to me, and was like, who am I to be coaching on money. So it's really been like that. And I often feel like when we're being led by higher, higher self or source, it's like the breadcrumb trail. Like, in hindsight, I can tell tell it to you in an interview and make it sound so buttoned up, but it really was not. It was like, one weird, seemingly unrelated, scary, don't want to do it thing after another. That was actually part of this beautiful divine orchestration to Yeah, to really transform me first and foremost, you know, it's been so so transformative. And it's really continues to stretch me and asked me to step into just higher versions of myself and higher timelines and really taking a stand for me and for other women and what what we get to do and how life gets to be. And I'm, I've been so grateful for it, because I do feel like the number one recipient and my own best testimonial. And the fact that I'm able to do it with other women who might also learn from all the time just honestly feels like the biggest gift.
Folake Bee
And I guess this is the thing about this healing journey is like it brings us back into just being ourselves as the path to inspiring other people. The path to creating wealth is like that genuine life finding yourself is the same journey of inspiring and creating your love. So what does your business look like now?
Emily June Wilcox
Yeah, so I spend probably about five hours a week still with the agency. So I'll still do some of the proposal calls with brand And, or, you know, do like a monthly finance review with our CFO and that sort of thing. And then I work about 20 hours a week. So the other 15 hours would be sort of a combination of content creation, doing coaching calls with my clients or working with them in Voxer, or delivering a programme. And it's, it's good, it's good, then there's a lot of time where I'm just a mom. And truthfully, a lot of great downloads and content comes through then to, you know, like, when I'm at the park with my kids, or I'm just watching my son do jujitsu or doing, you know, doing all the mom's stuff. So I think, as you mentioned, philosophy is like, it is our life. And so the more we can just be in it, and experience it. It's like, there are little truth nuggets there that aren't just for us, but that we can also share. And it's often those random little things that end up magnetising our soulmate clients to us as well. So I get a lot of clients that are like, I have young kids, and I love that you have young kids. So showing up as a mom and sharing that part of my life, actually, like is a business strategy, I guess you could say, I try to meditate every morning. Um, so that's an important thing, just to create some space for, you know, intuitions to come through or just to be in relationship with source, my higher self, my guides. And then I'll do various things. So if I'm drawn to a certain healer, I might book a session or join something that they're doing. I've been doing, I did a retreat in March, and I'm going back in September with someone who is a full body channel of an Ascended Master. And that has been really incredible to participate in. And I know that she, she works on our energy in between these retreats is well. I'm in a programme right now on ancestral healing. So that's, that's something new for me. But I felt drawn to start just looking at and reclaiming and, you know, feeling more connected to my wives and while ancestors. And then my husband and I are in a programme right now, that's called ecstatic lovers. And it's really meeting us at our growth edge around just breath work and intimacy and masculine and feminine energy. And you know, what all of that can look like in a romantic relationship. So
Folake Bee
beautiful. There's no other.
Emily June Wilcox
Yeah, I'm super grateful for it. And it, it feels different, because I've traditionally put myself in very business forward spaces. And this year, at least so far, my guidance has been, you're good with the business, like you've got that part figured out. Here are the growth edges, like connecting with your ancestors being in deeper intimacy with your partner. And it's like, oh, how incredible and the fact that of course, the business will grow. And of course, more money will come from doing that. Like, isn't that so much more fun than being in a Business Mastermind,
Folake Bee
Tony, it's like, it's so exciting. It makes life just feel so I always say intoxicating, like, your only work right now is to just find the divinity in yourself like Asin. So I have one last question. This environment, though, we all live in, you know, it's like it can be very chaotic. There's everything that's happening out there. And I personally feel that we're going through this powerful, beautiful time, this time of ascension, where a lot of bars now are stepping more into this way of being into more spirituality into finding ourselves and our business I've been brought into it, but saying that there are still so many people in that masculine paradigm of just pushing and chasing. They're not stuck, but they're in there. If you had one big, you'd like your top tips for somebody still in that space, fill in over While I'm carrying this huge load, what would what would you say? What would be your? What would be your message?
Emily June Wilcox
You know, it's such an interesting question. Because when I, I really believe that, we get the guidance, and we get the teachings when we're ready for it. And so, to some degree, I think someone who's living in a lot of overwhelm, and a lot of masculine energy may actually not be ready to receive anything that I have to say, and that's perfectly fine. If they were I honestly probably would give them a big hug and be like, you're so worthy. Yours so loved. And I just invite you to, to consider like, what if it didn't have to be so hard? What if you didn't have to work so hard for it? Because often, when I untangled that question for myself, there was so many other beliefs tied to it. So I wanted to be wealthy. And what I had determined was that the only way to be wealthy and not risk judgement from people I cared about was to work really hard for it. So if I really had to struggle for it and labour for it, then once I got it, people would be okay with me having it because I had worked hard for it. So it was actually fear of not belonging. But I never could have gotten to that place had I not been curious about like, Well, why do I feel like I need to work hard for it? Why am I wearing the struggle like a badge of honour? Oh, that's why I'm so grateful to the version of me, that worked hard, and that was in masculine energy. Because when my clients are in that place, like I get it, I really get it, because I've lived it. And, you know, there was a while where I wanted to burn down everything masculine and just go all feminine. And then I realised that actually doesn't work either. And we're both and now I feel like I can really honour both. And like, I love my inner badass. Like, I love when I feel tapped into that energy of just get shit done, knock things off the to do list, like, I love the masculine energy, but I love it so much more when it's balanced. And when I feel complete with the doing, then I can just relax and trust and surrender that the outcome is for my highest good that is
Folake Bee
so beautiful. It's funny that you said that the outcome is for my highest good today. Today, I spend all day in the spot. And I remember just lying down on the couch watching the water from the swimming pool. And this mantra was just coming to New York like I believe and trust that I am always divinely guided with the Automate is all tomato expansion and ultimate plug ins. That's the that's the thing, isn't it? This needs to just come home and just trust that is always working out
Emily June Wilcox
for us. Yes. And when you take that perspective, the day at the spa is just as important as the day working in your business.
Folake Bee
Thanks for listening. I hope you enjoyed this episode and that you come back again to listen to more expansive talks. In the next episode, I'm going to be talking to a shaman and we're going to be talking about healing. We're going to be talking about creating a new reality with the living light codes. We're going to be stepping into expansion what it takes to follow one's purpose. We're gonna dive into the shamanic path and what it takes to actually truly stepping to what is truly calling for us right now in this age of ascension. And I am truly excited for this one. So I hope you're going to tune in. For now please remember to follow me on the podcasting platform of your choice and give us a like on Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram using for like a B. We would also very much love if you can rate and review this episode. And if you have any questions or feedback, please do get in touch as I love hearing from you. If you're a solopreneur like myself, do join the solopreneur collective private group on Facebook. And don't forget to keep spreading the love and never stop the healing. Take care and join me again for another episode of the head centre
