Folake Bee 0:13
Hello and welcome. My name is bee and this is the healing centre, a series of podcasts for the free spirits solopreneurs heart centred entrepreneurs and changemakers leading the New Age world. We are unlearning and releasing echoes of what no longer serves us as we expand into new possibilities. Joining me in today's episode is Naomi gal, a highly qualified never system lead, somatic focused, routine mentor will get people back into connection with their womb, vaginas and rovers, Naomi says in your vagina lies the keys to your happiness. And history is fascinating in washes, how to navigate going through the fertility system due to a sperm IAM, Naomi is going to navigate for us how we can heal and find happiness through our vaginas. But before that, here's a little short segment on moments of reflection. So this month, we're moving into sacred power in terms of the theme in my business. And currently I have this private for today internship into sacred power because for me, this is currently the theme for me, staining to the sacredness of everything I do and how I do it, in essentially, the sacredness of the power that I hold in for me sacred power is about our ability to tap into the divine, the divinity within us to divine nature of our pain, and, you know, showing up and working from there. And one thing that I find fascinating about this dedication to this divine aspect of ours or this this sacred knits the sacred Ness aspect of us is the path fade leads us into when it comes to heart calling. And, you know, our calling, sometimes when people talk about, you know, finding your calling and following your purpose and, you know, following your passion, etc, etc, are holy sounds like this beautiful and amazing theme. And something that is so exciting, something that will always feel aligned. But the truth of the matter is that in how it's not always that easy, and it's not always that's just, that's, you know, the way that we always visually to be, there's just going to be like amazing, there are going to be challenges, there are going to be hurdles that we have to jump over. Because following our path following our purpose, and stray now calling
is not always easy. And OSI did this interview with Naomi on finding happiness and healing through the vagina. This came to me more and more in or when I listened to some of the challenges that she's had to overcome, or even her story into coming onto this path. You know, it reminds me that, you know, the calling to finding our purpose, it's one that brings us first of all into, like the cave to mind the diamonds. And even when we come out of that cave with our diamonds, navigating, you know, our path sometimes are still very challenging. But the thing that will stay that will like really keep us through is this determination and this focus to stay on the path this commitment to stay on the path this commitment to to follow it through is really was gonna like see us through to the other end. And this is why I love the you know, I love this, this episode that you're about to listen to because this shows really it shows dedication issues focus. And it's really when I was like speaking to Naomi really did also like just excites me and ignited something in me. You know, just listening to her passion and, and her story. And this is what it's all about. Like we follow up her purse. We've Follow, we we answer that call, because it changes the world. It changes the world not true what we say or you know what we do, but the energy to which we do it in her excitement and her dedication and just said energy, like, just wanted me to, like, do my best to follow my purpose and my path to holding space for her message to be heard, and I just love that. I just love it
Welcome back, I hope to this moment of reflection gave you something to inspire action as usual. Now let's move on to this week's episode with Naomi on healing and happiness through the vagina. I start by asking why do many find it difficult using the word vagina? Enjoy.
Naomi Gale 6:07
I use vagina. That's what I do use to describe the work that I do. And a lot of people get confused by that because I like Don't you mean volver and I'm like, oh, here we go. So I'm referring to the vagina because I work internally and I work internally through somatic touch. And we do externally touch the labia. So the volver, but I predominantly work internally. And then other people use the term Jani, which is Sanskrit for temple. And Jani refers to everything right? So it refers to the womb and it refers to the vagina and the vulva and everything. And this is where there's a bit of a challenge, because when I use Yanni, not everybody understands what that means. Because it's very yogi, and or Yogini. And it's it's not something that we see often. So then people ask, what does what does Jani mean? So also is obviously, based from Hinduism. And so it's kind of like, Oh, are we appropriating that time by using it? However, I have trained as a yoga teacher and I've used Yoni extensively through my training, and so it kind of has come part and parcel of that. But then what other words do we use? Right? Then describe everything to describe the vulva the womb, because I am a womb based person as well. We do womb touch. So what what what do we use? Okay, well, then, Percy is another one that people use. Because Posty basically, a lot of people will say, Oh, Percy only means like vulva or vagina. But actually, pussy would refer to everything. And there's one other word now let you consider what that might be. Everyone can listen. Because if I say it, but there's one other word that we use, and it's like, the most offensive word that everybody finds like, the most offensive word in society. No, my. And then like, it's like a swear word now, right? Everybody makes it a swear word. But it actually has very deep origins, this word. And it means the whole thing that really describes the whole thing, it is really the only word that's out there that describe the whole of the space. And people are like, if I use it, people be like, be like, Take an inhale a breath, right? Because Percy is like, a lot for some people. But this is a whole nother word. And it has origins in the Egyptian times they found like Egyptian language around it. And it actually meant like women and honouring of the women. But we've changed it in society, it doesn't mean that anymore. We've made it into a swear word. We've made it into a negative. It's like, you know, the worst word you can use. But I think we should start keeping it back. I personally believe that we should start claiming it back. But I'll leave that to you because this is your focal.
Unknown Speaker 9:01
Naomi Gale 9:03
See, it begins with a see.
Unknown Speaker 9:10
Should I say the word?
Naomi Gale 9:11
Not? It's your podcast? Yes. Yes. Yes, we are not. There's a whole book. There's a whole book on the con, there's a whole book on it, and why we should be claiming the word back. And why we should be utilising this word in a positive light. It's always in the negative. Why? Because policy is always a negative as well. If you think about it, as a society, if you hear the word pussy is generally in a derogatory manner. It's like oh, you're a pussy. Negatively. Right? Sorry, you're gonna use my pussy in your derogatory of sentence Nananana. No, because my pussy actually contains a lot of power and is actually sacred and deserves to be honoured. And now you are using it like that. No. Same for that word. You see?
Folake Bee 10:06
Oh my god, I never saw this word come then. Yeah, where does this really? What does it really originates from? Is it English? Is it where you come from?
Naomi Gale 10:19
Wow, that's a really good question. I was doing research on it. And originally from the Egyptian languages where they can find first find it travelling through but through the word with a K. And so it's like K u NT. And then there was confy, the goddess which was like a female goddess. So they basically use the term in Western society to describe the come as, as the, you know, within the pelvic bowl, which is another term we can use, we can use pelvic bowl, because that's the bowl of the pelvis and how it does everything. So I use that quite a lot. But then, but then it just sort of travelled through and it's lost its meaning but the roots of it seemingly from the Egyptian times, from from way back when the honouring of the woman. But it's, it's wild, though, isn't it? When you think about it, that we, we don't even have a term that we feel that we can use with ease and society that we can go that's the term that we can use to describe the whole of the pelvis with ease without people going. When you say vulva. What do you mean when you say vagina? What do you mean, and where are the ovaries? And what's the womb space? And pursue? Oh, I don't know about that. And oh, I definitely wouldn't use the term can't do. And we're like, where do we even stand? Where do we even start and
Folake Bee 11:39
that's just reflective of where we are in terms of like, you know, our power women. And so two things I want to quickly touch on the first thing was I'm so glad that we started on this thread of like, what what he is because even when I was emailing you, I realised that I texting with myself is okay. Why I'm a woman that even work with other women on woodwork. And then all of a sudden I'm checking myself like, do I say vagina? No, I usually say yoni. So my background I did tantric practitioner. So it's like we say Yoni, Yoni, Yoni, and I'm like, I'm checking in on like, a China I have nothing for diabetes cancer, like Bogle. Yes. Why? You know?
Naomi Gale 12:30
Yeah, exactly that exactly that and people asked me the same question quite a lot. And also people find it very abrasive if they asked me what I do. And I said, if I say I'm working with people with their wombs, absolutely okay with that, but if I say I'm working with OEMs in the vagina, they're like, oh, there was a guy or software or is remember a dad at softplay? And he just said to me, I just think that you should introduce yourself with the term vagina. It's a slight a bit much, isn't it?
Folake Bee 12:57
I want to touch on something that you've just said, in terms of like, when people use this word pricy meaning like chicky, you, whatever, when really, you know, we're talking about pretty yummy the tongue. Really is, I believe, I simply leave this blank, the power centre for a woman, how did it come that we now use it? Quite the opposite of what.
Naomi Gale 13:35
And I, I personally would then take that back to the patriarchy. And being it's the patriarchal oppression of the power that exists. I personally talk a lot about the challenges that we have through the shutdown of our centres, which stems back from way back when, of course, but I really like to think about how it's really stemmed from, you know, those 1960s 1950s era where they started to work out how contraception could actually shut down somebody's cycle. And I know some people find this like, a challenge, especially people who are still on the pill or have the coil or whatever. I'm not saying that there isn't a place for these these things when needed. But what I'm saying is, is that the way they were introduced is horrendous. And the way that they're used today isn't great. It's the shutdown of the cycle and the voice of adminstrator. And we're giving the pill to men straight as as young as nine. And so I'm saying that, in general, we look at the power that that comes from the centre and all that all we need. All we do in society is try and shut it down, shut it down, shut it down. And then we've done that for so long that we can't even we can't even talk about the vagina regarding the talk about pussy without it without it sounding odd. That's not come from Me. anywhere or any one particular, that's just a general feeling in society as a result of the shutdown, there's so much power that exists from the centre, that we know we live in a masculine heavy world. And Percy and vagina is so feminine. And that feels, that feels scary. It's fear, it's the fear of what could be. And we know and the masculine knows that the feminine is incredibly powerful has a lot of power there. But we're just gonna keep that arm's length. So chakras system is gonna keep that arm's length for as long as they possibly can. So that we just continue to have to work on finding that power. And when somebody finds that power, when they find it, there's a lot of pussy Power Chat around, when they find that power. They, they change in every aspect of their life, their life completely changes in every aspect, why? We only have to look at that, and then realise why we don't talk about the fussy day today in this society.
Folake Bee 16:05
That I totally agree with you there. And when I was reading the story, so I want to like dig in a little bit into how you got to between this work, like you know, what was there's always something that brings us back into our own game. And I feel like this is like, like a, that's, you know, this is like your calling this is like a game. This is not just somebody that's on to them. Oh my god, tomorrow I'm gonna be working. Because why nine? So I want to go into like your story a little bit. How to do like, tell us a little bit how did you get in?
Naomi Gale 16:49
Well, I don't really know how I ended up working. So specifically with the vagina apart from I find the vagina so fascinating. And when I talk about it online, it's met with so much resistance that I feel like it's it's my calling to talk about the vagina and bring it into people's awareness again. But in general, coming into this work started on I had painful periods, a lot of us have painful periods, you know, where I couldn't move on my first day of my bleed. And then we were thrown into the fertility system. So my husband's got azoospermia. And I have three children now who are donated on the sperm side. So azoospermia is where there's no sperm. But there can be two types of sperm. And I always like to raise awareness wherever I am about azoospermia. And if anybody ever is on a fertility journey, it's never it's never those who were with the womb, that should be checked fast. It's not that we should always have the sperm checked first, because it's so much easier to juice into a pot than it is to go through all the tests that we have to go through. So always rule out, do you think in the pot of Earth, that's why I always say, and he went for his first test, and they were no no sperm at all at the age of 27. And we can we can trace back how that has happened now, but like we were point as far as we can tell, but you would never have known that that would have been the case at all. It was a total shock to both of us, of course. And then we didn't get any help. And what happened was, was that what the way I viewed it was that well hold on a minute. It's very simple. I mean, I don't know if I can if you know how it works, but you need a sperm and egg. And then you make a baby, right? So I'm sitting there with all these consultants. And they're like, Yeah, I'm looking at your BMI. And it says that here that you're underweight and you would not be eligible for any, any treatment on the NHS. So here it's an NHS lottery of fertility treatment anyway, but it was awful. Like the appointments were awful.
And so what ended up happening was, was that they started to focus every time. Okay, yeah, we can see he's got his new spam. Yeah, but we're going to come back to you. What I haven't even had the chance to look at spam in the eye is all about my BMI being underweight. And when I was younger, it was a lot about my BMI and being underweight. Checking that I'm not anorexic, tracking that I'm not believing it was just my makeup. It's always been my makeup. I'm very slender. And yeah, I got to the point where every consultant just ignored my husband or we went to a consultant that specialised in this and was convinced that he was going to find spa with my husband, right? I'm like, literally we've checked it's not blockage because there's blockage or non blockage for a azoospermia and he hadn't got a blocked there was nothing blocked. So there was never going to be this magical unicorns sperm gifts. So I don't understand why we couldn't just focus on the fact that I was still young. I was 26 at the time and knew that all I needed was some spine, right? And my husband was happy to accept donor sperm. But no, consultant after consultant and the final nail in the coffin for me was when I was told that I wouldn't. I was beside myself within nine months of this and I was crying and crying and crying. And she just was like, looked at me. This was a guy's Hospital in London. And she said, Have you had any counselling for any of this? And I said, No, no, we've had no support for nine months, you don't understand, like, I've done all the research. I've done all the referrals. Like I've done everything for nine months, no one has helped us as she went. Yeah, that's sad, isn't it? Well, you will get you will get support as like, Oh, great. Wow, where is she said when you go to a fertility clinic? Okay, well, we haven't seen a fertility clinic, we've not been inside a fertility clinic for nine months. So then what, when I share this story, it, it brings up a lot of anger for people and a lot of frustration. And a lot of people they really, they really feel it on a personal level as well. And when I stepped into a different trajectory, so I was like, Okay, well, I'm done. I'm parking the UK, I'm parking everything that's happened. And Alia was like, let's donor sperm. And I went to Greece, I went to Athens, and the story and the narrative was very different. So when I rang the main person in this clinic, and I went to serum, and I always, always recommend if anyone's listening, and they're like, I'm on a journey, and I'm looking at abroad. Well, I went to serum, I always share that. And I went to serum in Greece, and I adore them. She rang me and said, How are you? Do you understand? For lackey, I've been through nine months, no one had asked me how I was. And so just to have that, I broke down in tears. And it was that very moment that I realised how awful the system is because my periods were ignored my period pains were ignored. I was told that it was I had a low pain threshold. That's what I had. Okay, here's the pill. And then I'm going through fertility treatment trying to get that and it's like, well, it's clearly just gonna be that you have a low BMI. And when I contested that, I said, What's that got to do with anything? They went? Well, your miscarry, you'll know you have a crystal ball, you can see that I'm going to miscarry you're telling me how my body is. So it's always for me what I see. And what I saw, I saw the system for what it was, which was a system that is very, very much against the support that we need as human beings, right. And I recently interviewed a doctor on this. And we discussed at length, their training, and how it removes the humaneness from their training, and leaves a doctor in a room that can only exercise empathy, but at a level that they're prepared to exercise that never sympathy. And it's always well, the research shows this and they don't even look at the research properly. Though, when I was doing the azoospermia research, I basically became an expert in azoospermia. Right, no one knew anything about it. And so what I found when I went into Greece was I found the sisterhood that I hadn't found before. Sisterhood from the clinic where they were like, welcomed me with open arms in a in an embrace in a cuddle, right. And Darling, you just need sperm come over. Right, exactly why it said, you know, literally, that's what she said on the phone. So I got pregnant the first time my son's now six and a half. And he's the most beautiful boy, I'm so blessed with him. And then what happened was I went again, and I hit it hard. I was like, well, six months after him. I was like, I'm really worried about being in the system. Again, I just want another child or sibling and I'm gonna go at it. And when I had it all wrong, I was in my masculine. I wasn't honouring my womb, I wasn't honouring the journey. Irish is heavily in it in it. And then it kept failing and failing and failing and failing. And I was like, Oh, what am I doing? What am I doing wrong? What's wrong with me? All of those words that that so I hear so often in my space. And then I took a break for a couple of months and went back and we had IVF so switched from what was IUI which is where it's basically well timed sex. So they just insert the sperm at the right time to IVF where they extract the eggs and then it's all done in the dish five days in you have the eggs put back and went for my first scan. I did request to have two eggs put back. But then when both of them took and I was pregnant with twins, I was like, oh, now I'm going to be going through a twin pregnancy, but I ended the new thought I'm going through twin pregnancy in this system. Oh, oh, and I was so right. I tried to embrace set, but the system was a game about not trusting in our bodies, right? If a young girl is presenting with period pains, then we should trust in that girl's body that the body knows what it's doing, and that there's something else underlying that that girl needs support with, you know? And what could that be? What could that look like? No, we just shut it down with contraception. And then if we're going through a pregnancy, why can't we just trust that the body knows the body knows how to grow twins if the body is pregnant with twins, and that's what the body chose. And that that actually the pregnancy will be as breezy and easy as it needs to be with how were put needed. But in fact, I carried them full term. And I said, I want a vaginal birth, oh my gosh, like, you don't want a vaginal birth. You want a C section? Why don't want a C section. I want them to come out my body. And then after that, after I did have I did have a vaginal birth, but you know, I had to be induced because they then say placenta will fail again, not trusting in the body. And then when I finally gave birth, I was like, ah, the other side. I couldn't breathe. And then they were like, oh, no, you can't breastfeed twins. What? No, I can't breastfeed them. Another thing that my body is capable of doing. And then it was like barrier barrier barrier trying to breastfeed them. It got to the point where I was swearing at midwives and preparing to walk out of the hospital. Because I was like, I've I've taken you've taken everything, you've taken everything off me, you taken all my body rights off me, right, the last thing I want to do, just let me breastfeed my babies, right. And then, when I put the argument, lucky, of course, I breastfed my babies for two years solely without a dropper formula, which was my choice formula has its place. For me, I just wanted to see how I went. Without formula. That was a personal choice. Everyone has that choice. Every body deserves a choice. And I feel like what we get is no choice is presented with no choice. And then everybody's backed into a corner. And it's and it feels like there's just fear, constant, constant fear. And so when I stepped into this work, I started learning about fertility awareness, trusting in our bodies without contraception, finding our fertile windows. Then I started to dive in further to the pelvic bowl. And I was like, Well, what about the room, and then it goes down further. And then eventually, that's how I landed in the vagina. And I now see why. Because what's happened is, as I get a lot of younger girls in my space, I'm a primary teacher train. That's what I did before all of this. And I get young, younger girls in my space, who are in pain, pain, where they can't have sex, where they can't insert a tampon, where they can't even touch their labia without excruciating pain. And I don't mean, the pain is like, Oh, that's a bit of a dull ache. I mean, if somebody touches their labia, it's as if they've being stabbed with daggers in their pussy, right? And they go to the doctor. And what does the doctor say? Well, and the doctor said, Let me lie, lie down. And we'll insert a.
Melissa, to have a look right? So I'm like, hold on a minute. Hold on, hold on, just clarify this. For me, the person is presenting with pay. vulvodynia, for example, or they're presenting with vaginismus is another huge one. And you're going to start shoving things in their room when they're telling you they can't even put a tampon in. And the problem is, is that doctors aren't aware of these problems that are linked to the mind, because psychology and medicine do not marry up. And so in Western society, so what we're missing is this really important link, which is how our experiences our traumas, challenges, our wounds, then manifests in the body and come out in some way period pains in fertility, vulvodynia, vaginismus, whatever listed Ms. You know, Miss cycles, irregular cycles, PMS, now we're using the term PMDD. And in this ms ms. I see it, I see it, I've been in it, I see it and I just want to be here as that voice for the people who need that voice. So that's a long way of me telling you how I got into this work.
Folake Bee 29:39
Yeah, I asked him really I mean like he knows so many people relate to this even as you talk him about your, your birth experience. I'm like, i i So relate to that. I have an 11 year old boy. And I still remember when I was having him and I wasn't as conscious as I am. Now I was like, I will say it was prior to my journey just before I was already on this journey, but I wasn't as strong in it. So I was one of those ones that fell into like, an Assyrian, so I had a sensation with him. And now if I was in then like, I would not let him touch me that night, because there wasn't anything wrong for me not to carry that boy to the end of the term. But the timescale was different to the natural skill. And now knowing what I know, nine, and actually, when listening to you, I'm like, you know, so many women fall into that, that that space of like, you know, them telling us how money can handle it, and then changing things. So I went through seven. And now we're going to have, and also even the brush to breastfeeding thing that you were talking about exactly the same thing for me. But thank goodness, again, I like I was asked to do this. So it actually took six weeks from breastfeeding my child, but I got there and then I breastfed, and for like, a year and a half, you know, do you think right now that this connection between loss empower women bill and, and some of this symptoms that so many people believe that?
Naomi Gale 31:34
Yeah, yeah, I think what happens is, is that there's a lot of fear. And when we're in fear, we can't be aligned fully. We can't believe in, in our power to, to do whatever it is that we want to do, whether it's like basic things that we that we would probably love to do, many of us is like go and ask for a raise in our work, or have a relationship that actually feels good all the way through, you know, that the body is feels and aligned relationship. And there's so many other things, you know, just general life, you know, of feeling the power that we need to stand in, in order to have a life that feels nourishing, full of joy, full full of pleasure. And that's shut down by fear, right? It's just the fear, the fear comes from others comes from the medical profession, for sure for like, not feeling the trust in our bodies. But it comes from everywhere in society, there's fear everywhere in society, and in terms of trusting in our bodies in this way, and trusting our body's innate ability to do whatever it needs to do, such as have sex, right. But, you know, even that is an interesting one, you know, like, I don't know, about you for like you, but if I'm having a more pleasurable sex life, then everything feels like a little bit brighter and lighter. And I don't talk about like sex and pleasure. As often as like, perhaps maybe a sexologist would because that's not necessarily my focus, I talk about joy and pleasure day to day, so that we can understand what that feels like in the body. Right? And so that we can start to come back into the body and find safety in the body. Because what happens is when there's all this fear, it's the nervous system can't deal with everything that's going on. And we're in fight or flight or were phoning whatever we're doing in order to stay safe makes sense. And what we want is for the body to be able to unfurl in the vagina as the same unfolds like a rose petal by petal through gentle, loving care through more joy and pleasure. And so, in order to receive that, we have to be in a space well, where we can prioritise that, right. And so, in order to just receive touch in a way that feels good feels so far fetched for so many of us. Like, in order to have that power to say, I don't want that penis inserted inside my vagina. Because it doesn't feel good for me, is a rejection for so many men. Oh, you're rejecting my penis. How dare you reject my penis? Have you seen my penis? You know, and I only like internal. I like internal and the orgasm gap is huge. Right? The orgasm gap is huge. For women experiencing orgasms and men experiencing orgasms because society prior to prioritises penetrative sex, and lots of people think when we think sex and pleasure we think penis in the vagina or as the young youngsters call it now for lack up in have a right. And so, yeah, I've seen that around a lot nowadays. So then we have to take back our power and say, Do you know what actually feels good? My clitoris. Yeah, you know my clitoris, the thing that we've ignored for so long that's solely here as a sea of pleasure, touch that. Explore my labia, did you know that my labour is filled with nerve endings? Touch them? Did you know that I would much prefer to receive sensual touch from you, or touch without any sensuality at all, just touch Healing Touch. No, I've just prefer to receive that. And then we can see where it goes. But my boundary is no penetrative sex. And then it's being able to utilise our voice, but our voice is connected with our per se, our voice and are the same, the throat is the same makeup as the cervical canal. And so when we are shut down from our centres, we are shut down with our voice. And so our power is shut down through basic things like being able to assert boundaries. And that is like, you know, I could go on, but that would be my answer to that for like.
Folake Bee 36:18
I love it. I absolutely love that. So, okay, I saw on your website, you got this. It's an assessment for it like
Naomi Gale 36:31
this specimen. Yeah. Yeah. It's a quick assessment. Yeah.
Folake Bee 36:36
Okay, so I was quite curious about that. And I was thinking festival will be called to do that to be called
Naomi Gale 36:45
well, and anyone that is struggling with anything that might be a manifest from the pelvic bowl. So the assessment is really quick. Basically, it's like, Are you experiencing any of these symptoms? Or there's like a quiz that people can go through. And I may, on the quizzes, ask questions like, Have you been through sexual assault or rape, for example, have you had childbirth that was challenging, for example. And I would say that most of the time, most people can find something that they found a challenge with, with their pelvic bowl. Do you like the look of your vulva because labia plasticity is the biggest rising Plastic Surgery Department that exists to this day? Sorry, we're literally like encouraging young girls to just simply have surgery to change the way that layby alert looks for who, for what. So it could be any of those types of things. And then what happens is they're they placed in a flow that I've got, and each flow for each symptom looks quite similar, but there'll be directed to different things that I will have done. So for example, if somebody is saying that they have had childbirth, but they now don't know what to do with like contraception and they feel out of touch with their body, then my big cheerlead is learn about your discharge. Discharge is amazing, like we don't understand like how incredible discharge is and what what are discharged houses every single day about where we are in our cycle, and the gifts of the discharge are just endless. So they be directed to learn about their discharge, for example, and it's that that kind of thing, and there's like visualisations that are specific for anybody who you know needs to come and learn the edges. Learn about the edges of the pelvic bowl, learn about where the edges are, to come back into connection with the pelvic bone and understand what that feels like. Because if for example, we don't like the look of our volver. We will not as I want to think about our Volvo, we wouldn't want to think about the edges of a Volvo. Oh, that would feel so challenging in the body to have to think about that. But what would it feel like to just work with that in a gentle way to work with that resistance and see how it feels to say hi. When we're together, okay, yeah, we're together for forever okay, what would that look like you know, that teamwork again, so
Folake Bee 39:26
that you have that assessment and then that also shows that even just a starting point can reflect back to us so many areas of our life that no we haven't difficulties challenges with that literally can be transformed by us just coming back to school and during spoke about this, but I just want to touch a little bit more. Just as we're coming to this close this thing around, you know, a woman finding fulfilment Finding Happiness and finding no ways we spoke about more about finding the power back, but know that that inner happiness within them and finding the joy back and how what we're talking about now could be almost like the starting point. Can you speak to that just a little bit more? So someone is going to be watching those systems and I haven't even considered or is it something like no, I'm taught by going?
Naomi Gale 40:37
Yeah, such a good question. So I do believe for lucky that the happiness does lie within our vagina, true happiness. And the reason I believe that is because it's coming back home to the body. And often we see that bandied around, right, like, what does that mean to come home to the body? What does it look like to love myself? I mean, gosh, how many times do we hear that we should love ourselves? Okay, well, that's like, multifaceted. And some of us, like, still are on that journey of what love for us. It's not as simple as, okay, I shall do this activity. And tomorrow, I will wake up and I will adore myself, absolutely. Not the case. So I believe that the working with the pelvis gives us something tangible to work with, right? It's like, okay, well, that's something I could actually think about doing. But I don't really know what that looks like, still. But when you start working with your pelvis, like you said, for lucky, what happens is, is that a lot can come through around held emotions and feelings about not just that area, but everything else that might exist around that area. So a, an activity that people could do that would be doesn't involve having to think about touching anywhere or visualising anything. But it's a really good journaling activity that I share in the workshops that I run. And it's it's a it's a timeline with your relationship with your pelvic bowl. So womb ovaries, I mean, some of us have had like an ovary removed or cysts on an ovary. So ovaries are really important to remember as well and fallopian tubes to and the vagina and the vulva and the labia including everything right, and you draw a line, and then you split it in half. So you start with your zero as like born, and then your age now and you split it in half. And then you write some events, memories, experiences that have come through for you over this timeline. And what can happen is that when you start giving yourself the space, do this and ceremony, light a candle, bring in some smiles, be nested feel held and touched and loved in that way. So that you feel like when I'm doing this, I'm held and you know, for the nervous system to unravel and do some breath before that allows you to feel like you're landing in and then start writing these experiences out that can snowball from that, because then you start to realise where your power potentially might have been taken away. monarchy, which stands for the first bleed can be an exceptionally challenging memory to bring back up. But what was your monarchy like? Oh, I remember, my monarchy wasn't celebrated. I wasn't held, I was thrown a box of Tampax and told to get on with it, you know? And so thinking about that, and then there'll be so much for so many people on that. Because then you start thinking about memories with relationships, anymore traumatic events that have occurred, any medical professions, any bear so you know, it's endless. What could come up for you on that timeline? And then see from that, where you're where the feelings are, you know, and sometimes a lot of people can start to feel sadness. There's sometimes a lot of frustration, anger, anger is a huge one in this work, anger for like, how, how dare this have happened to us for so long? You know, that realisation is huge. And so hold yourself in that. And just give yourself a moment to be in the emotions that have come up and know that that's as it's meant, and just to give yourself that time is so precious, and then start to think about how you could then work with some of those events that have come up with the emotions that have come through. So okay, actually, I can see that I need to just come back a little bit more into my body and coming into my room feels like something I want to do. How could that happen? Okay, well, maybe I could start finding some Google it. There's room visualisations everywhere.
Come back into the pelvic bowl visualisations. There'll be all over Google if you Google it and just start bringing back visualisations visual touch. And then that's when you can start to see what you're ready for next. And then the next step I would always do I always say to people, well, we're going to start working out where our emotions are. There we go. Bringing the visualisation then we're going to bring in the mirror work so that we're aware of what can come up when we're looking in the mirror like you were speaking to for lackey, just looking can be really powerful and it is powerful. That's why so many people find that a challenge because it's the source, right? It's the source is the centre. It's like there's there's nothing else that wow, it's just that okay, that's that's a lot. And then you can come into I believe personally the next step would then be to bring in somatic touch. And I have videos on that on my if you're anyone's on Tik Tok, for example, I have pin posts on that on how to and there's some on my YouTube channel, like how to bring in somatic touch, and then just see what unfolds from there. Because you know, for lucky when you start these healing journeys, you start with one thing, and then you're like, Oh, now there's that. And now there's this
Unknown Speaker 45:51
Naomi Gale 45:53
That would be my starting point five, that's a view.
Folake Bee 45:57
I love that. I love that. And to finish this off, you've got a book coming out, you mentioned to me. Do you want to say a little bit about this book? Because it's,
Naomi Gale 46:10
you know, there's falaqa you know, you're the first person to ask me about my book, and I feel that this is a big deal. Yeah. Yeah, Fast Pass that asked me about my book. Okay. I started writing this book because what happened was on Tik Tok, I got reviewed, and Tik Tok banned a lot of my work. Because I was talking about the vagina. Even though it was educational, I wasn't breaking any rules, and all my videos always came back. But now when I post on tick tock, and my videos get reviewed, and they take about three hours, sometimes 24 hours to review every video that I post, what happens is, is my reach drops. Yes, the reach drops. Yeah, so I'm being shut down. Right. And I don't care what anyone says, I'm being shut down with this work. Okay, so I was like, What can I do that still gonna allow people to find my work with ease, write a book, oh, how does one write a book. And I started to write it. And it was like it was birthing out of me, like it was just flowing and flowing and flowing. And so it's got that I've got the first manuscript, and the the pre orders hopefully going to be going out this month, and then it'll be released in spring next year. And it's called, in your vagina lies the key to your happiness, of course. And so it's gonna be basically five steps, basically, some of what I spoke about just then, and it's five steps to come back into relationship with your vagina, and what that looks like, and what can come up and, and before that, we talk about holding on to the cracks in our foundations. And so looking at like a lot of the the challenges that exist around the vagina, which we've spoken to today. And it's an inclusive book, it's inclusive, it's for everybody. I don't, and I'm really, really careful with that. But it's a, it's an inclusive book, because I feel that a lot of these books do not include everybody that needs to be included. So I'm really, really excited. And I'm hoping that when this goes out, it might coincide with you know, some time though the pre orders being available. And so if anyone's listening in, they're like, I want to learn, please help me because I'm self publishing this book, because I don't want to go to the publishing houses that are going to take control of my book and give me 10% of my sales, which is, by the way, in general, what they give people I want to do myself, okay, if I'm lucky, I'm finding this, I want to actually birth this myself. So, thank you so much for asking.
Folake Bee 48:37
I love it, I think you are being called to do I think you are being called to do this work. And I mean, I personally feel it. And it's quite interesting that you said your, your, you are a shut down, because we saw a little bit of it. I've been on this podcast, you know, when the end and like the time that went off, and also the science that I saw, so I mean, people will not understand what I'm talking about right now. But I do feel it, you know, and in ra said this, I feel it's more spiritual aspects because what you're doing right now is almost you are, you know, you are one of the forces that are helping this rebirthing and there was a post that I shared a long time ago, which was a vision that I saw, which was this vision, between how, you know, creativity came to be this, this two consciousness, the masculine and the feminine consciousness, and how one consciousness which was the masculine took over from everything, including taking over from the feminine consciousness, which is the feminine energy and the whole now To find balance because it's feminine energy, it's needed to get us back into balance. And there's still this complex and this this fight for power. So the things that we're doing the human aspects and human level. Like you, your soul is being called to do this work to have this balance. And that's why you'd continue to probably get this like, push back and push down, you might feel so physical, like, Instagram is just like cutting me off. But there's more to it than that. So yeah, I'm so happy that we're doing this podcast and I will get all your, your social media links and put it in the podcast and share it and do everything we can from the past. So I want to have
Naomi Gale 51:03
you I'm so grateful for you giving me the platform to speak about it, it means a lot to me. I just feel like it means so much to everybody that comes in the space and I just do I'm really grateful for you giving me this time. So thank you so much for lucky I'm so grateful.
Folake Bee 51:17
Thanks for listening. As promised, that was the episode about finding happiness through the vagina. If you want to follow up with Naomi on anything we mentioned, or to pre order her upcoming book, in your vagina lies the keys to happiness. I have left some links on the description for you. In the meanwhile, to follow the healing centre on the podcasting platform of your choice. You can also find me personally on Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram, using ads for like a bee. Like always, we would very much love if you can rate and review this episode so we know how we are doing. And if you have any questions or feedback, please do get in touch as well. I love hearing from you. Just so you know the solopreneur collective private group on Facebook has been renamed in a power Game Collective and the link stays the same. That's all for this week's episode. Until the next one. Don't forget to keep spreading the love and never stop the healing. Take care and join me again soon for another episode of the healing centre
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